Pilot dogs, very important!! please read!!!

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Post 1 by DeviousAngel (Generic Zoner) on Thursday, 20-Sep-2007 20:17:59

Hey fellow zoners, I am posting this in two seprate spotts, I wanted all to know to take all guide dogs from pilot dogs inc to your vetrenarian as soon as you can, I personally have just had a very unfortunate thing occur with my current guide. I found out that my two year old golden retriever that was given a clean bill of health by the volunteer vetrenarian of pilot dogs, was released off there campus with gieartiea and another bacteria that comes from unclean boarding and bathing of there dogs. This is not the first dog to suffer this fate, so, if you can avoid it, don't attend Pilot dogs inc.

Post 2 by Reyami (I've broken five thousand! any more awards going?) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 8:37:40

I don't need telling twice. Has that school come under fire from any nationwide guide dog user organizations?

Post 3 by Musical Ambition (I've got the gold prolific poster award, now is there a gold cup for me?) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 9:55:09

Good lord people. A dog can catch anything from anywhere. this isn't the only school that this has happened to. And, if anyone is in their right mind, they should automatically take there dogs to their regular vet, even if the school's vet says they're healthy.

Post 4 by Izzito (This site is so "educational") on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 11:05:37

wow this post is really dumb

Post 5 by DeviousAngel (Generic Zoner) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 13:40:00

ok, well then, tell me why? gieartiea is from unclean water? that means, that my dog, was drinking out of unclean water before I got her, I would never let my guide dog, the dog that's my eyes drink something nasty!!!! and she so pickey that she wouldn't even try!!! as for this post being stupid, then... don't read it? as for taking my dog to the vet, I did, and it was one of the vets that they use, infact it was the same one that came out to the school at the time I left with her. so, for all that wanted to know, there was the information

Post 6 by soaring eagle (flying high again!) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 14:20:23

Not owning a dog I shouldn't be posting here, but I think what gemini was trying to say once you get the dog home, go to another vet. the clean water yes that's a concern. to me it would like a doctor saying you needed a surgery that could be risky, most would get a second opinion right? Just my opinion.

Post 7 by changedheart421 (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 16:33:34

this topic is so retarded.

Post 8 by tunedtochords (Zone BBS is my Life) on Friday, 21-Sep-2007 17:05:48

Er, well, here's the thing. Giardia in dogs isn't just from drinking unclean water. (Actually, it isn't from that at all.) When there are lots of dogs in one common area, bacteria like giardia is commonly passed around. (Lots of the dogs in my class at the seeing eye had it, and while it's unpleasant, it's nothing that a round of antibiotics can't treat.) Think about it. All the dogs were living together in the kennels for months. Then they get put into class with the students, and they're all relieving in the same area. Even though the droppings are cleaned up and disposed of, and (at my school, anyway), the park area was hosed down on a daily or twice-daily basis, bacteria still can survive and get passed on to other dogs. It's just something that happens in kenneling situations. That's why a lot of dogs get ear infections and conjunctivitis while living in the kennels before placement. While I have issues with Pilot for several other reasons, sending a dog home with giardia isn't one of them (although the vet should have run cultures on the stool if it was soft and the dog was showing other signs of discomfort, but it's just as much the handler's responsibility to say, "Hey, something's up with my dog.")

Okay, shutting up now...

Post 9 by shelly and shiloh (Zone BBS Addict) on Tuesday, 30-Oct-2007 13:21:33

hi,
I got my golden retiriever shiloh from pilot dogs in january.
She got a different bacteria inffection a few months after i got her but i don't think it was from the school.
She got something called clusttridia sorry if thats spelled wrong.
And pilot is a good school well for guiding just not for aggression issues towards other dogs.
My shiloh is still acting aggressive towards dogs lunging well trying to she can't as much since i've been putting her in the gentle leader while in harness.
But she does try it when she isn't in harness and its driving me nuts i've even been using there prong collar and one of those smart collars.
I even went back to the school a second time and the only thing they fixed was for speeding up and growling and barking when she sees dogs behind fences they didn't even fix her barking and growling at them when in harness like if they are coming past us on leash like when i take her on walks through parks or around some of the lakes here in saint paul.

And i'm seriously at my wits end i have know idea what else to try, a lot of the dogs don't even bark at her or try to go near her. she's a sweet dog otherwise awesome at guiding me and great with kids and cats.
And i don't think they'd give me a new one since i've had shiloh for only a short time.
The school did agree with the director that she was a confident guide and that i'd get better at reading her signals which i can do really well when she's in harness cause she walks real slow when other dogs are gonna approach or walk past us.
Pleas if anybody can help me i'm desperate i don't want to give up my golden girl for something new. i don't want to have to go through all these problems again with a new dog.
thanks for reading shelly and shiloh

Post 10 by SensuallyNaturallyLiving4Today (LivingLifeAndLovingItToo) on Monday, 26-Nov-2007 15:18:49

Ok, this is a little misguided but not a retarded post. I understand your frustration with the school. I agree with TunedToChords that Pilot is bad news, but for other reasons than the bacteria thing which can happen even at a very good school like Fidelco Guide Dog Foundation or The Seeing Eye. To Shelley and Shillo once again. If a school is giving out dogs with agression issues they are not a good school. Period, end of story. Where any dog might have those issues a good school would not have let you graduate with such a dog and would have weeded it out during assessment and initial guide training and temperment testing. As for getting another dog: if you go to another school, a better school you will not have the problems you are having with Shillo. And, if you do they will katch it early, still in training and get you another dog right away that does not have that problem.